tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778276361957351199.post5370787243296332457..comments2024-02-29T14:12:01.955-05:00Comments on Flashback Universe Blog: Top 10 Most Powerful Pre-Crisis Superman FoesJim Shelleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05006833955333061262noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778276361957351199.post-65523937854285454752013-05-29T16:57:26.777-04:002013-05-29T16:57:26.777-04:00@Jim Thanks! Obviously, Superman is a subject that...@Jim Thanks! Obviously, Superman is a subject that gets me going. <br /><br />You can have Superman vs. villain stuff, you just can't lean back on it. Some superheroes very much lend themselves to that or are even specifically designed for it from the ground up. <br /><br />I think you can get good stories out of Superman regardless of power levels though something in the post-Crisis or animated series range is the most reasonable. But other writers have gotten mileage out of readily embracing his power levels. <br /><br />When you have thesewriters say he's too powerful or too difficult or even too good(as in not angsty or "badass" enough) frankly I think they are far too quick to blame the character for their own short comings. DC's been blaming the character for their mistakes for years. <br /><br />But again the trick is not to become too dependent on the big brawl. I love action and I like Superman cutting loose on a baddie as much as the next guy whether he's tearing through a horde of robots or slugging it out with an alien despot. However at the end of the day he's Superman, not a WWE Superstar. <br /><br />In the case of Hollywood movies I admit Superman is overdo for a good fight. Meanwhile, Star Trek could stand to crank it back. In the latest movie Scotty says "I thought we were explorers." <br /><br />So did I Scotty. So did I. MattComixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015552734150732758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778276361957351199.post-91894981346034610332013-05-29T07:49:47.181-04:002013-05-29T07:49:47.181-04:00@MattComix - that reply almost was a separate arti...@MattComix - that reply almost was a separate article in itself (which is pretty awesome!)<br /><br />I agree with your statement that a good Superman story usually has him dealing with a problem that is not a direct physical threat. I think that's part of the reason his Rogue's gallery has so few heavy hitters and is made up more of bolt throwers. Since the idea of Superman is he's the mightiest character, having him defeat supposedly more mighty villains month after month doesn't really work. <br /><br />That why I sort of prefer Jimmy Olsen stories featuring Superman over actual Superman stories. The dilemmas in the plots are more interesting.<br /><br />Like you,I prefer 89's robotic Braniac. I just like the design more. Same with purple and green Luthor (power armor or no) the purple and green always made him look more like a real supervillain.<br /><br />Not sure how I feel about Darkseid - over the years, it feels like he's been trotted out for events but he loses his menace every time they dust him off and bring him out again.<br /><br />Jim Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05006833955333061262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778276361957351199.post-80130816931819584522013-05-27T22:54:53.550-04:002013-05-27T22:54:53.550-04:00The lameness of Superman's rogues gallery has ...The lameness of Superman's rogues gallery has always been overestimated. But in addition to this though there is also the basic problem of assuming that every Superman story needs to be a punch em up with a villain. <br /><br />A good run of Superman stories should in addition to super-villain showdowns have him in situations where the drama lies in his figuring out how to best apply his powers to a given situation. Or having him battle the machinations of a villain rather than the villain himself. Also breaking things up with having ground level stories that are generated by his work as a reporter and he has to bide his time before going into action as Superman at just the right the moment. <br /><br /><br />In a weird way for me the Bronze Age Superman is almost more defined by Garcia Lopez on DC Comics Presents and Gil Kane's run on Action because that's most of what I saw during my formative years. That and the Donner films of course. It was later that I read more Elliot Maggin stories and also started to appreciate Curt Swan more. <br /><br />I've always had a fondness for the robotic version of Brainiac that was in the early 80's comics and the SuperPowers line. I also liked the animated series take on himThe fact that it's 2013 and Brainiac has yet to be realized on screen is ridiculous. <br /><br />My preferred Luthor is the evil CEO <br />but the kid in me still digs that powerarmor suit. <br /><br />General Zod is overplayed. I like him (at least the Terrance Stamp version) but as far as movie going audiences are concerned Superman only ever fights people with the same powers or a bald dude holding a rock. <br /><br />I also enjoy Parasite, Livewire, Rampage, Metallo, Silver Banshee, The Eradicator, Mongul, Maxima, Mxyzptlk, Bizzaro, Atomic Skull, Conduit, and the animated series version of Toyman. (Honestly the Prankster and the Puzzler are lamer than Toyman.)<br /><br />I like Doomsday purely in terms of Superman vs. a monster, but having him just come from nowhere and kill Superman is one of the many problems with the Death/Return storyline.<br /><br />..and even though Darkseid and his crew were not ever designed to be Superman villains I still enjoy them in that context. I guess I enjoy Darkseid both as the villain of New Gods AND as a DCU villain who will target Superman because he knows what an inspiration he is to both the people and the heroes of Earth. <br /><br />That is perhaps unfair to New Gods as something unto itself and because of this I would totally understand if Darkseid realized on screen in New Gods rather than in a Superman or Justice League movie. <br /><br />MattComixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015552734150732758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778276361957351199.post-12825300319290441732013-05-27T22:51:29.950-04:002013-05-27T22:51:29.950-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.MattComixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14015552734150732758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778276361957351199.post-14394041579099588072013-05-26T15:15:15.255-04:002013-05-26T15:15:15.255-04:00Luke - Metallo was actually on my first draft of t...Luke - Metallo was actually on my first draft of this list, but I bumped him in favor a few of the more obscure guys here (Karb-Brak, Oriental War Demon, etc...)<br /><br />Like you, I wasn't sure how powerful the Pre-Crisis version was either.Jim Shelleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05006833955333061262noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4778276361957351199.post-3702742306212933912013-05-26T11:57:28.214-04:002013-05-26T11:57:28.214-04:00Metallo has always been a personal favorite of min...Metallo has always been a personal favorite of mine, although I'll admit to not being familiar with his pre-Crisis power levels and maybe he's not that great in that era. Still though, the premise of the character is pretty compelling when handled well, and there's a variety of ways to handle his powers that would all look amazing on the big screen.<br /><br />Heck, in terms of sheer power, Mr Mxyzptlk is fantastic, and it's practically criminal that he's never been used in a movie. At this point, a guy in a derby hat from another dimension who can manipulate reality isn't even absurd for the genre of superhero movies. He easily allows for the introduction some of the fan-favorite villains that have been difficult to use in modern stories, like Bizarro and Titano. "Mxy did it"... that explanation and some cool SFX is really all you need.Lukenoreply@blogger.com